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A Mindful Perspective
How to Work Through Perfectionism
Have perfectionist tendencies ever held you back? Perfectionism impacts everyone differently, and it's important to understand how it shows up in our lives and affects our overall well-being.
In this episode of "A Mindful Perspective," we dive deeper into the complexity of perfectionism, to showcase that it's not as simple as it seems. Awareness is the first step towards breaking free from unrealistic expectations and developing a healthier mindset. But perfectionism often stems from fear and shame, influencing various aspects of our lives beyond just making sure our work or projects are "perfect."
We discuss how the fear of judgment can lead to procrastination and anxiety, and how the “quest” for the perfect body image can lead us into adopting harmful habits. I share my personal stories of how perfectionism spread into multiple facets of my life, hoping to help you reflect on where it shows up in yours.
Understanding the roots of perfectionism is another key focus in this episode. We explore how childhood experiences and parental influences shape these self-critical voices, often resulting in a fear of failure and conditional self-worth. We discuss the concept of the inner critic, emphasizing that these negative thoughts are typically inherited beliefs rather than our own. Remember, perfectionism does not define you.
Hello everyone and welcome to A Mindful Perspective. I'm your host, nick Levesque, certified Spiritual Life Coach, and I'm here to share insights into my journey of mindfulness and self-discovery. Each week, we'll explore mindset, spirituality and personal growth to help you navigate life's challenges, with practical strategies and inspiring stories. Let's dive in. Hey everyone, and welcome to another episode of In my Perspective. In today's episode, we're going to be talking about perfectionism, because I think it's something that can impact us in a variety of different ways, but I know, for me personally, it really showed up in a lot of different places in my life, right. So I'm going to be sharing a bit of my stories today, but we're really going to be diving into more about perfectionism and tips and tricks on how to work through perfectionism.
Speaker 1:Now, as I was just saying, I think that perfectionism is something that a lot of us face to some degree, some more than others, but typically, perfectionism is kind of like a set of self-defeating thoughts. We sometimes go ahead and set these excessively high standards or goals for ourselves and we're very, very critical of our own performance. Now I just want to highlight something here Setting big goals for ourselves is a great thing, right, but sometimes, because of the perfectionism tendencies. We think that everything has to be 100% perfect and then we stop doing the things that we're doing because it's not good enough. Or you know what, if I fail All these different things, right, a lot of perfectionism from my personal subjective experience I've noticed is that it's rooted in fear, right, a lot of shame, a lot of fear. But really, if we don't take control of our perfectionism, right, I think there's a few things that can happen. One is that tendency tends to kind of propagate in different areas of our lives. We're not typically just perfectionist in one specific area, right. I think it kind of starts to diversify itself in a lot of different areas of our lives. But, secondly, it can really lead to stress, anxiety, low self-esteem and for some people, if it's so chronic right, they've got these self-defeating patterns it can really lead to even depression, as an example, right. So this is why I think it's so important for us to get that understanding of how perfectionism can really impact our lives.
Speaker 1:And there's a great quote I read by Brene Brown, and she said when perfectionism is driving us, shame is riding shotgun and fear is that annoying backseat driver. And I found that to be so powerful and so true as well, right, because, again, a lot of perfectionistic tendencies are rooted in fear and insecurity. Right, for many perfectionists, there's an underlying fear that they're not good enough, they won't succeed. Maybe, if they don't do this right or perfectly, they won't be loved, okay. So some people, they actually think that their worth is defined by their achievements and accomplishments. Right, so if they don't do this perfectly, you know, they won't get validated or they won't get that recognition or love that they think they deserve, based on their achievements. Right, and you know, I personally I think that everyone should be loved unconditionally for who they are and not just conditional love based on achievements. Right, but again, that can stem from childhood, which we'll talk about a little later. But this is what I mean by perfectionism, right, it's not only having these high, unrealistic goals for ourselves. It's so much deeper than that, right.
Speaker 1:A lot of people will say like, oh, you know, I'm a perfectionist, I'm a perfectionist and you know. That can be good, right. Some qualities of perfectionism are good, which we'll talk about in a second. But a lot of the times they can be rooted in fear, they can be rooted in shame, right, and that can also look like not taking risks unless a successful outcome is guaranteed. Right, so they're not taking a risk unless there's a specific outcome that they're hoping for that is guaranteed. Right, sometimes they'll be overly concerned with what other people think about them so they won't do something and it'll stop them from doing something. Right, because they believe that if their flaws are exposed, that they'll be rejected. They can sometimes also not handle criticism and feedback.
Speaker 1:Well, all these different things, and psychologists Paul Hewitt and Gordon Flett define three forms of perfectionism. Okay, so, first and foremost, there's self-oriented perfectionism, which is really when someone demands perfection from themselves, which I think is, you know, a lot of people with the perfectionistic tendencies. There's also other oriented perfectionism, where someone demands perfection from other people. Right, now, this is also another very important form of perfectionism and something that it's something that we need to be aware of, that maybe we're doing as well, right, it's like hmm, how do I have so many different expectations from people?
Speaker 1:Right, because sometimes I feel like we expect other things from people. Right, we see potential in people. We see that they can do all these great things and you know they're not doing what we're expecting of them. We can kind of get upset with them, right. But that's not on us to kind of carry, if that makes sense, right. I hope that kind of. I hope what I'm saying here makes sense. But basically what I'm saying is we have to meet people at where they're at right. So if they're not ready to change, if they're not ready to do the thing that you know is going to get them to the next level, and that's not honest to carry, right. So this is just what I mean by.
Speaker 1:Sometimes we think like we're demanding perfection from other people, right. Maybe it's a specific project, maybe it's all these different things we expect too much from people, right? It could also be socially prescribed perfectionism, where it's really when someone feels pressured from others to be perfect. So this could be, you know, in childhood environments, maybe from a parent, all these different things, right. So there's so many different things and we'll talk about and we'll dive into this a bit more.
Speaker 1:But really the important thing to understand as well is perfectionism can be kind of like a double edged sword, right? So there's good qualities from perfectionism because they can motivate us and ensure that we're giving quality work as an example, right? So if we're working on something or project at work, or whatever we want to make sure that it's good, we want to make sure that, you know, it's quote unquote almost perfect, but not to the point where it's causing us unnecessary anxiety and stress, right. And this is why there's kind of like two other forms of perfectionism right. So there's adaptive versus maladaptive perfectionism, right.
Speaker 1:So adaptive perfectionists they set realistic goals, right, they use kind of that positive reinforcement. So they know that it's okay to make mistakes, they know that even though it's not 100% ready, they'll do their best, because they realize that you'll never be 100% ready, so you just have to do what you can as best as you can. So this kind of leads to a higher self-esteem and just overall well-being, as opposed to the maladaptive perfectionist, where they are, again, like I was saying earlier, more driven by fear of failure and more driven by all these different things that aren't good fear of failure and more driven by all these different things that aren't good. Right, they're using quote-unquote, these negative qualities of perfectionism, which again leads to anxiety, low self-esteem and, like I said earlier, can lead to depression if it's not really taking control of. And the important thing to understand about perfectionists as well is that perfectionists actually achieve less than those with kind of that adaptive attitude towards perfectionism.
Speaker 1:Right, because, again, when your focus is, you know, so focused, if you will, on perfection, that can rob you, right, they can rob you from motivation. It can leave you to procrastinate as well. It's something that I've noticed in my life personally. Right, it's like you want this to be so good, so perfect, right, that either you're spending countless hours on it, which you know, even if it was quote unquote 100% ready, you're still probably going to find something that can be better. So this is what I mean by you'll never be 100% ready, okay, so it can lead you to procrastinate because you don't want to do it, because you're afraid of whatever the outcome may be, or also it can stop you from doing the thing entirely. Right, it's like, okay, I want to do this.
Speaker 1:Maybe you know, as an example, you want to write a book and you're about to publish it and get it out to the world, but then you think it's not good enough, it's not perfect enough. It needs to be this, that and this. Right. So at a certain point, that can lead to again like and it says don't wait for 100% readiness, it will never come when you're 80% ready, go for it, run straight at it, get exposed and risk messing up and risk messing up. So this is what I'm saying, right? I think this is so important to understand, especially if we're people or you know, we're individuals with a lot of perfectionistic tendencies is that it will never be a hundred percent ready, right? So when you're at that 80% mark where you feel like, okay, I'm, you know, I did the best that I could. I understand it's never going to be perfect, but I'm really, I feel as though I'm at 80% Just publish it.
Speaker 1:Publish that YouTube video, publish that post on Instagram, publish that Facebook, whatever, it doesn't matter. Publish your book. If we're going back to the example that I talked about earlier, just do it. The more you can do that for yourself and just learn from the feedback that you get, learn from your mistakes. That's how you build that self-confidence and that's how you build that self-esteem, right? Because you're kind of going ahead and facing that fear.
Speaker 1:Now, I wanted to share with you some real examples of perfectionism, right, and these are a personal share, by the way, like these are perfectionistic tendencies that I've noticed in my life that I really want to share Because, again, I really try to be as genuine and, you know, share my own story so they can resonate with other people as well, right? So, first and foremost, for me, one thing that I've struggled with for a long time I'm much better at this now, but it was social media posting, right. So, and I think for a lot of people, this happens initially, when you start posting right, and from people that I've talked to, you know that are other kinds of content creators and they they post stuff and they put stuff out there. They've all said the same thing. It gets easier after time and also, you just stop caring what other people think as much after time.
Speaker 1:Right, maybe not a hundred percent, but what I'm saying is, like, what I noticed for myself was that whenever I would post something on social media, or when I was just starting my posting journey, if you will like, I would get so much anxiety, right, like so much anxiety, and this is what I mean I thought it had to be perfect. What if other people didn't like it? What if, you know, I made a mistake? All these different things, and you know I was really trying to reach for that a hundred percent readiness. So essentially, what I would do is I would procrastinate, either I wouldn't put it out there at all or, you know, it would take me like two hours to take, you know, to post something or to create content. That could take five minutes for someone that's not overly identified with that perfectionistic tendency, right?
Speaker 1:So this is what I'm saying, and when I really sat down with myself and I asked the question, right, like you know, what is the cause of this perfectionism for myself? Right, what is really going on here? Right, the root cause of that, what I noticed was that it was fear, right, I was afraid of doing something. I was afraid of putting myself out there and having people judge me. I was afraid of rejection, type of thing, right, I was afraid that my content wouldn't be good enough, it wouldn't be resonating with people and all these different things. And that fear kind of, for me personally, kind of led me to shame as well, right, that feeling of shame because again it was tied into that I'm not good enough, type of thing, right, and this was a big belief of my own, a big self-limiting belief. But this is what I mean, right, perfectionism can stop us from taking action. It can stop us from doing the things that we know we need to be doing to get us to the next level.
Speaker 1:Another personal example that I want to share is over-exercising, right. So for me, you know, if you've listened to the podcast for a while, you know that I'm into the gym and I actually, you know, I made an episode on body image a long time ago, but basically I'm a big gym guy and for many years my body was my shadow, right. So basically what I mean by that is, I thought my worth and just you know the sense of who I was was tied to my body. My body was my identity, right. So guess what? I was striving for the perfect body. I was striving for the perfect body, and that would lead me to very self-critical thoughts like, oh, you know, I'm not jacked enough, I'm not lean enough. Basically, just the root cause, that again being I'm not worthy, I'm not good enough, I'm not enough all these different things right, and also kind of tied with that as well was eating right, like I was strictly eating right, like I was strictly eating right. And for me personally, I think that I'm still very much into the gym. I treat my body as a temple, meaning that I like to eat healthy and such. But I have a much better relationship with food now than I did back then, right? So again, I was striving for the perfect body, which meant I needed to have the perfect diet as well. Right.
Speaker 1:So it's all these different things so this is what I mean by perfectionism can really creep in on us in ways that we may not always think about. Right. It's not always about like triple checking your homework or your assignment at work before giving it to your boss and making sure it's all perfect and neat and tidy. Right. It can really show up in a variety of different aspects of our lives, and this is what I was talking about earlier. Typically, when we have chronic perfectionistic tendencies, it's not only in one aspect of our lives. Right, maybe it will be for work, but maybe we'll do the same thing for social media, maybe we'll do the same thing for gym. All these different things, right? So this is what I'm saying Perfectionistic tendencies can be good. We want to achieve those high goals, we want to have high standards for ourselves, we want to be consistent in the gym. There's nothing wrong with these things. But again, to what extent? What is it costing you at the end of the day?
Speaker 1:And before we dive into our next section of how to work with perfectionism. I want you to take a moment here. I want you to take a moment and just think about where does perfectionism stem in my life? Right, like, where are some areas in my life that I feel that I have these perfectionistic tendencies? Again, for some people it's significant, for some people it's less. There's no right or wrong here, okay, what I'm asking is just take a moment to reflect on how that looks for you in your life. So now you can pause me, by the way, if you want to, but now let's dive into how to work with perfectionism.
Speaker 1:So, first up, that I want to share with you today is identify where the beliefs come from, okay. So, like I talked about earlier, if we really sit down and assess and analyze our perfectionism, right, and just really get a better understanding of our perfectionism, oftentimes what you'll notice is there's an underlying belief. Okay, there's an underlying belief of something, right, maybe it's you're not worthy of love, that you're not good enough, you must be perfect, or if you're not perfect, you're going to be rejected. There are many different things that can shape our perfectionism, right, but typically they're tied to some sort of belief, okay, and the thing is, typically these beliefs were formed in childhood. So let me just give you an example Maybe you had perfectionistic parents.
Speaker 1:So, as we know, children often imitate their parents' behavior. So maybe your parents were perfectionistic themselves. So if they were exhibiting perfectionistic tendencies in the household, a lot of times the children can kind of mold themselves based on what they're seeing in their environment as they're growing up. So a household environment where perfectionism is kind of a norm or, you know, consistently modeled as a standard, well, children can start internalizing that right. They can start internalizing those attitudes and behaviors right, and then they can be very perfectionistic themselves. So this is just one example of where that can show up.
Speaker 1:Another one would be, maybe that you had extremely critical parents, right. Maybe you had parents that had very high standards for you, and if you brought home, as an example, a you know, a 90 on your test or whatever, right, that wasn't good enough, so you needed to do better, it needed to be better, right. So this can instill kind of that fear of failure, because if you fear or if you're failing, then you're not going to get your parents' approval. So that can be a drive for perfection. So just think about that for a second, right, that child that comes home and gets scolded over and over again when their notes aren't good enough in school, even though they're doing like 80s or 90s, well, the child can actually instill that belief of like, okay, I can't fail as an example, right, so they drive for perfection. And also, what that can do to a child is kind of instill this conditional love. So the child will feel that their parents love or approval is based on their achievements, it's based on their academic performance, right, so they may develop those perfectionistic tendencies to ensure that those expectations are met. So, to ensure that you know, okay, if I don't get 90, well, my parents aren't going to love me as an example, right. So the love is actually conditional, it's not unconditional love from a parent.
Speaker 1:So this is what I'm saying, right, there are so many different ways that perfectionism can come into your life, right, and sometimes these beliefs that you have may not necessarily be your own, okay. So this is what I'm saying. There are so many other ways that perfectionistic tendencies can come into your life when you're thinking about I'm not worthy of love as an example, right? Or if you know, if you know, if this isn't perfect, then you know my friends aren't going to like me or you know people are going to judge me. All these different things, right, all these different beliefs, we have to take kind of that. Those beliefs we need to really kind of go or try to go to the root Now and again. This is something that may need the work of a therapist or a coach, right, and this is something I help clients with as well. So if it's something that you feel that you need with you know you can check my Instagram, you can check my website. I've got more information in the podcast description. I do one-on-one coaching and I'd love to talk to you more about that if it's something you're interested in. But again, it's really about identifying, kind of, the root of where that perfectionistic tendency comes from.
Speaker 1:And the other thing that I really want to share as well is that inner critic. Right, and we're all very familiar with this inner critic. When I say inner critic, it can be those things right, it could be I'm not good enough, or you know why am I even trying this? I'm going to fail. All these different things, right. That voice inside that kind of shames you. Okay, but again, this is what I'm saying. This is very important, and if there's anything I want you to take away from this episode, it's this okay, whatever thoughts your inner critic says, right, I'm not good enough, I'm not worthy of love, I'll never find a relationship, I'll never find a partner, all these different things, right, all these things that make you feel like you're not good enough. It could be related to your body. It could be related to you specifically. Typically, that inner critic is not your voice, okay, it is not your story. This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It's important to kind of go back to childhood and figure out where this inner critic comes from. Right, because, again, when we're born into this world, we're not negative, okay, we're not self-defeating, we don't have all these self-critical thoughts. So, typically, the inner critic that we have stems from our childhood environment. Typically, it comes from our parents. Typically it comes from the mother and the father, depending on what they're saying, depending on what they're doing. It could also be, as we grow up a little bit as well, from our teachers or caregivers or whatever it may be. But typically, like I said, we don't come into this world negative. There's no such thing as a negative baby type of thing. Right, no one's negative. No one's got this inner critic initially right, but it develops based on the environment, the household that we're in.
Speaker 1:So if you keep saying to yourself, I'm not worthy of love, I'm not worthy of love, maybe that has something to do with your childhood, as an example, right, maybe it's because in childhood your love was conditional, based on whatever it could have been at that point in time. Maybe it's because if you didn't do 90s on your tests, well, hey, my parents don't love me, so I need to be doing at least 95 to get that recognition, to get that validation and the love from my parents, right, and you know it should never be that way for any child. But that's what I'm saying. If you're feeling as an adult that you're not worthy of love, it could stem from that and other things. Of course, right, it's not only most of the time, it's a lot of different things, but this is what I'm saying. It's about understanding where those core beliefs come from. But again, this is the very important thing, right? Typically, our inner critic it's not our voice, it's not our story. So what's important to find out is whose voice is it?
Speaker 1:Tip number two is to identify your patterns and challenge those behaviors, okay. So, as an example, maybe you feel like you need to check your work over and over and over before you're turning it in. Okay, maybe you find that, you know, when you're trying to post on social media, you get all this anxiety, you get all this stress, ok, and you don't end up posting as an example, right? So take a moment. First and foremost, try to you know if you want to.
Speaker 1:This is a great journaling exercise, by the way. You can really just ask yourself where are my perfectionistic tendencies coming from in my life? You can write down the things that come to you, you know, come to mind at that point in time. But you can also ask or write down a question right, write down why do you think that this activity must be perfect? Like, why do you think that this must be perfect? And typically, what you'll find is that it doesn't necessarily need to be perfect. You think it needs to be perfect. And again, this kind of comes back to the beliefs and all these different things. But it's really important to identify your pattern so that you can challenge them and, like I said before, this can come from a lot of different places, but it's just important to understand that not everything needs to be perfect, right? It's like I said earlier don't wait for 100% readiness. It will never come. When you're 80% ready, go for it, okay. So just try to get that understanding of where your perfectionistic tendencies are because, like I keep saying in almost every episode, you cannot change what you're not aware of.
Speaker 1:Tip number three is to set realistic goals and evaluate your expectations on yourself. Okay, so this is just really sitting down with yourself and having the honest conversation and this could be journaling as well, right, you can do this for meditation, journaling, whatever it is that you want to do but just ask yourself the question like how much are you honestly expecting of yourself? Are the goals and expectations that you have actually realistic? Just have that genuine conversation with yourself. Like I said earlier, we should all strive for big goals, like for, for big goals and high standards for ourselves. But to what cost? Right? If it's to a cost that it's actually detrimental to your overall wellbeing, okay, then that's not good for you. It's also not realistic to expect that you'll never fail or you'll never make mistakes as an example, right, because, again, those are part of the journey, okay, and they're part of who we are. They're part of growing as an individual, right, so you will learn from your mistakes. But, again, just ask yourself the questions like are you honestly able to meet the expectations that you have of yourself? Because typically when we have this kind of perfectionistic tendency, it's like I said earlier right, we have so much higher expectations than ourselves and a lot of times those expectations aren't realistic. So when we're not meeting them, we are filled with guilt and shame and all these things that don't belong to us. Right, like we are human beings. At the end of the day, there's only so much we can do, and a part of the human experience is realizing that we're not perfect, right, it's realizing that we are going to make mistakes, regardless of you know how well we're trying to do, and the more mistakes you make, the better you'll get at whatever it is that you're doing anyways, right, that's how you learn. Failure is an opportunity for growth. It's a lesson. So, really, tip number three, again, is set those realistic goals and evaluate your expectations on yourself. Tip number four is what is perfectionism costing you? Okay, so if you've seen kind of like these tips so far, a lot of them could be done through journaling. Right, like, this is a tip, but it's also a question that you can really sit down with in journal. Okay, again, it's time for another honest conversation with yourself.
Speaker 1:What is perfectionism costing you? Okay, are you missing out on opportunities because you're so worried about what other people are thinking, or that whatever it is that you want to do is not going to be good enough, or it's not ready, or you think it will never be ready? Okay, are you constantly spending hours on something because you don't think that it's good enough? Or, again, you don't think that it's ready or it'll ever be ready? Are you not publishing your book because it's not 100% how you want it, or you're afraid that people won't like it, or you're afraid of whatever? So you're actually not doing anything at all. In fact, you're procrastinating and you're postponing and you're pushing it away.
Speaker 1:Are you not doing the things that you need to do for your business? Are you missing out on other opportunities? Are you losing connection with yourself because you've got these so high, unrealistic expectations of yourself that you can never meet? So, because you can never meet them again, you're filled with this guilt and the shame that you just can't shake off because you You're not realizing that part of the human experience is the ability to make mistakes, and that is perfectly fine. So, again, really, tip number four sit with that question and honestly have the conversation with yourself, right, radical honesty what is perfectionism costing you?
Speaker 1:Last but not least, we have tip number five, which is self-compassion. Like I talk about a lot, okay, and again, like I keep saying, self-compassion is something that's hard to do, especially if it's not something that we've done consistently for ourselves or it's not something that we've ever really introduced. But I keep mentioning it because a big part of healing and a big part of getting through anything is to have that self-compassion for ourselves. It's to not be so hard on ourselves, even though that can be very hard at first. But, especially for perfectionists, they're their own worst critics, so sometimes they can have the difficulty supporting themselves because, again, of these high expectations or you know all these different things that we talked about today.
Speaker 1:Ok, but if you're having these, you know these struggles and such, you can really sit down with yourself and ask yourself a few questions, right, like, what would I say to a friend in a similar situation? Okay, so maybe you're having a hard time. You feel like you know you're not good enough. I'm just going to use this example where you feel like you're not good enough. You know you shouldn't put your stuff out there because it's not good enough, it's not ready enough. What would you say to a friend in a similar situation? Someone comes to you. They're saying the exact same thing. What would you tell them? Try to see them from that perspective. What advice would you give a friend going through a similar situation? That's another way that you can word the sentence. Okay, also, another one here that's very important Would I talk to a friend the way that I talk to myself?
Speaker 1:Yeah, for me that was a big one. Right, like that was a big kind of change for me. It was a big one, right, like that was a big kind of change for me. It was a big kind of like that mindset shift is like hmm, would I talk to a friend or someone else? Right, Just someone else in general, but specifically a friend. Would I talk to someone else or a friend the way that I talk to myself? Okay, chances are you wouldn't.
Speaker 1:So why are you so hard on yourself? Take a step back and really realize that, right, like, why are you so hard? Why am I talking this way to myself. Another question you can ask is what do I need right now? How can I take care of myself? Okay, maybe you just need to take a break. Go take a walk, hit the gym, go take a bath, whatever it may be, right. Whatever kind of self-care modality that you use for yourself, go do that, right.
Speaker 1:Sometimes we just need to step away from everything and just focus. You know, listen, tune into our bodies, right. The body holds so much wisdom as I keep saying what does your body need right now? Right, what do you need right now? What does your soul need right now? Okay, take that into consideration. And again, it's just so important not to be too hard on yourself. And also, don't be hard on yourself because you're having issues dealing with perfectionism. Right, that's so, so, so important. Don't just say like, oh, I'm having, you know, so much issues dealing with this perfectionism, right, I'm never going to make it, or you know, I'll always be a perfectionist. No, no, no, no, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 1:Perfectionism is not part of your identity. Just because you have a part of you that has these perfectionistic tendencies, do not mean that you are a perfectionistic person as a whole. It's kind of the same thing as anxiety. Sometimes people will say like, oh, you know, I'm an anxious person. I'm always so anxious, and they've been anxious for so long that they tie anxiety to their identity, right? So, no, no, no, there's a part of you that's anxious, but you are not anxiety itself.
Speaker 1:It's the same thing here that I'm trying to say. There's a part of you that's perfectionist, right, but you are not perfectionism itself, right? So don't let that stem into your identity. So, that being said, that's all I've got for you guys on today's episode. If you did like the episode, please feel free to leave a comment or review, share it. It really helps bring awareness to what I'm trying to do, which is really kind of, you know, spread this podcast on a broader scale to really help people just navigate everyday life challenges. So, again, with that being said, I hope you have a good week and I will catch you guys next week. Thank you.
